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    M Adamopoulou

    Corfu is a beautiful island and I have also great memories of family holidays.  The first time I visited the island my son was only 2 months and now he is 30.  I dont know why but Greek coffee doesnt taste the same abroad as here in Greece.  I have many relatives and friends in Canada and when they come to Greece the first thing they do is to buy fresh grounded Greek coffee. Cheers!!!

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    Leandri Klopper

    Hey guys and gals,

    You've convinced me. I should definitely shoot for Greek Coffee. I see there are many coffee and chocolate expos going on in Johannesburg over December. Might have to go sniff around there before traveling super far for a cup of coffee first hehe. 

    michael beeston  - See if we were to offer such an Awesome coffee solution here, we would run out of pods on a daily basis. People here love free things, especially if they're "expensive". Which it is, versus instant coffee. 

     

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    M Adamopoulou

    Hey Leandri-Klopper am so glad that we conviced you to try Greek coffee. It would be a lot better if you could taste it though in Greece, the aroma is much better here. So now that Santa is coming, hop up on his sleigh and off you go. 

    Since I do not breakfast but have coffee, tea, fruits, snacks, cookies, cakes, eggs, milk, yogurt, juices etc available for guests to use. As for expensive coffee I  do a little trick.  I leave only 2-4 pods of coffee so if guests want more they can purchase them from the supermarket.

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    michael beeston

    Morning Leandri..............Come to Australia and taste some awsum  AUSSIE coffee and of course the awsum summer weather.....hahaha...Michael.

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    David

    You can't beat a good old sachet of instant Nescafe, cheap and cheerful.

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    michael beeston

    haha  Mornming M. its  7 am in the morning in Surfers Paradise and Rita and I have just finished our second lovely coffee and off to work......................its coming into Xmas and we are busy busy....have a lovely day...Michael.

     

    David.not sure about the Nescafe Instant !!!!

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    David

    Tongue in cheek my old friend

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    Bandara Hotels & Resorts

    I think it depend on what level of service you are. For our 4 start hotels we still use basic coffee for breakfast but for chargeable coffee we use more premium quality.

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    michael beeston

    haha thanks David..but you know I grew up on Nescafe instant in Australia.......in the old days we did not have a coffee culture like today.....................amazing..My mother and father would NEVER go to a smart coffee ship,...Dad used to say.."what a waste of money".My daughter works in the City (Sydney) and buys 2/3 coffees a day from  the local barrister Cafe   ( $10.00 EVERY DAY !!!!)

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    michael beeston

    enough money to buy a ticket to Greece to try  some real coffee. !! haha and stay at M's.

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    michael beeston

    Hi "M".my daughter is a travel writer and goes to Africa so many times.she absolutely LOVES African coffee ( all types) and brings me home many different varieties....cool as .Michael.

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    David

    Will guest be asked to rate on the quality of toilet paper next?? we are accommodation providers not coffee shops.

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    pibomarco

    Maybe.. It is quite a difference between the one layered toilet paper and the three layered. 

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    michael beeston

    David..I agree, we get a 9.5 for coffee.One word RIDICULOUS !!!!!...Toilet paper next ..maybe a 6 Haha.or less.

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    David

    Like anything it's a matter of personal taste but where does the individual item of reviewing end.

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    pibomarco

    It's not just about the personal taste. The taste of a good coffee can be spoiled because of a bad maintenance of the coffee machine, poor cleaning ect.. 
    These ratings are more or less pushing hosts to be better and to improve.. (if they care). 

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    David

    So where does the start and end begin of reviewing individual items?? why not the sausage or bacon at breakfast why not the quality of sheets on the bed??

    Some guest are ignorant when comparing the price they pay to what they expect.

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    David

    So if I served you a very expensive up market coffee you would rate it high because of its status or because it was to your taste.

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    fluff

    Can you still buy that "tracing-paper" stuff ...... hahahahahahaha

    I remember at school being sent to the toilets to obtain our supply of tracing sheets!

    Coffee wise, if charged for it should be good, if free you decide (we use Nescafe sachets).

    The only problem is I think many guests rate your coffee on the freebies and not the "real" stuff. 

    How about BDC differentiating between the two or better still, only rate on purchased coffee. How can a guest complain about free stuff FPS!

    X) free coffee wasn't Blue Mountain double gold fandango dodo poo, very unhappy

    X) Toilet roll was white! I can get that at home, very poor. (I prefer newspaper in the local language)

    X) Toiletry consumables were generic, I wanted a new bottle of my favourite designer brand, very disappointed

    ETC!

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    michael beeston

    David....absolutely agree,guests  expectations are sometimes a MILE High!!!..we try BUT cant keep everybody happy all the time.

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    michael beeston

    Fluff, we had a guest staying in one of our other homes and she complained the coffee pods were from Aldi and not NESPRESSO !!!!!!..4 different coffee pods by the way !!!.what to do..BUT smile and say next time !!

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    pibomarco

    You can not compare a coffee to a sausage or bacon. Coffee has a different status generally looking. I don't drink coffee though but I do understand why is "important". 

    Beside some guests, lots of hosts are ignorant too, because they only see things from their perspective and have 101 excuses. Perhaps these ratings are ment mostly for them to open their eyes.

    Like Hotel Hell seasons with Gordon Ramsey - great show. 


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    Gina

    What about rating teas next. 

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    M Adamopoulou

    -michael-beeston of course you are welcomed to visit us anytime you like. You wont regret it. Greek coffee is not only our specialty.  After all we are only 20 hours away by plane....  For  us Greeks, offering Greek coffee is an act of hospitality and social gathering and when you visit a Greek home, especially in the villages, coffee is served without even asking.

    Here is a Greek saying: Men are like coffee, they’re strong, warm and keep you up all night!!

     

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    David
    pibomarco  You seem to have a very one sided view. Many proprietors work dammed hard to make their product and service the best possible but allowing reviews of single items of an over all service where does it stop?? a question you have not answered.An expensive coffee can be rated as poorly as a cheaper instant brand it's a matter of TASTE or perhaps you are telling us all the world population has now become coffee experts.
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    pibomarco

    "We collect this information to help you better understand guests"  

    If your coffee or bed rating or wifi.. is overall rated 5.00, then do something about it. If it is rated above lets say 7.5 that's a good score. Why complaining?

    Do you really need an answer to your question? Yes it can be, sometimes ratings are not fair, that's also true. But overall those ratings show the real picture. If the bed rating is scored 5, then it is probably time to change the mattress or linen/sheets.. It doesn't mean that someone prefferes a harder or softer mattress. It means that your bed is really uncomfortable and probably outdated and overused.
    It's all about improving your services/facilities/amenities ect. If you are a low budget and offer less, don't expect 10's just because you offer lower rates.
    Again, just generally speaking.

    And coffee is important. Many people can't go through the day without a coffee in the morning. We can manage without a sausage or bacon.   

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    David

    Sorry I totally disagree. What do you say to the accommodation providers offering budget accommodation, should they jump through hoops and provide top notch supplies just to keep those who have no reality of what they are paying and what they expect? they are the types unfortunately who tend to leave negative comments.

    Once again a persons likes is a matter of taste and will differ from person to person.If coffee is so important to a persons life then I would say they have serious issues.

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    pibomarco

    I offer a budget accommodation.

    Again, if overall score is 5,0 it is not matter of the taste differ. If it is rated above 7,5 then you can say it is matter of taste. Do you consider 7,5 as a bad rating? 

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    David

    We provide fee coffee and tea if it is not to the taste of some of the guest then so be it we are not coffee shops but accommodation providers offering a free curtsey tray of tea coffee and biscuits.

    so very sad that you think coffee is so important to a persons life

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    pibomarco

    lol David.. its not what I think. It's the stats and facts. Probably same with tea in the UK.
    I don't drink coffee at all. I preffer coca-cola early in the morning. ;)
    I've explained and argumented my point... and you are being just defensive like the owners in Hotel Hell with Ramsey ;)) joke aside, wish you all the best with hosting.



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