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    Leandri Klopper

    Hi there,

    Thanks for the post! 

    My opinion is that the more you have to offer guests, the better. Even if you have to give it a test run without the extra fee for the remote. You can always put an extra charge on it later if you see that the guests are irresponsibly using the ACs. 

    I was once at a bed and breakfast where they had the cleaners check the "state" of all devices/tools in the room as they cleaned. So on their little check list there was a checkbox for - Tap is closed, AC is off, TV is off, Heater is Off. It can be managed I think. 

    Hope this helps, hoping even more there will be a lot more responses to this question. 

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    Zoinks

    Thanks so much, Leandri.You are helpful as usual.  The thing is that this is not a system which I can give a try as installing ACs is not a cheap thing to do and will also need a disruption of business. FYI My property is a scheduled 3 centuries old building and even getting permission for an AC which impacts the facade will need jumping through several hoops so I would really love some feedback from people who charge for AC.

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    Zoinks

    My other options is to  use portable AC units, I have one in my office.  It chills  the room excellently well  but it lt is loud plus no installation apart from some basic stuff, 

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    Leandri Klopper

    Joey,

    Big pleasure, oh my word that sounds so awesome! You probably won't want to ruin the whole atmosphere of a centuries old building with an AC and all that comes with it. 

    Well there you go, you just gave yourself a solution. Portable AC! So then you also don't deal with those people who figure out a way to use the AC without paying for it etc. It's simple then, if they don't pay for it then you don't wheel it into their room. 

    I'm sure with some research into the market of portable ACs you will find a brand that doesn't make lots of noise and that is easily portable plus durable. 

    Maybe do a survey for a few months? Ask guests who had stayed there if they would have liked/disliked having an AC. And ask them, portable or built in?

    Keep well

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    MikeM

    Just some ideas, you only need to control the power to the A/C.   So a combination lock, to a box covering the A/C power.  No Payment = No Access.  ( the same idea as charging for the remote. )

    Split Type Aircons are less 'ugly' - and give you the choice where to hide both ends of the 'solution'.

    If you want to monitor how responsable your guests are being, you could look into IP based Sensors, that could tell you the room tempreture, and possibly if a window is open or closed.  These are getting cheaper, but I'm not sure how easy to use, or if they record the data, so you can review later, or only get a live reading. - I can send you some suggestions if you or anyone is interested.

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    Zoinks

    Thank you for the feedback. First portable AC installed and working. Just under a window I found a thin piece of wall (just 12 inches thick instead of the usual 5 feet for rest of the external walls) and drilled a 6-inch diameter hole for the AC to exhaust the hot air. It is not silent by far but cools the room nicely and quickly. So I think guests who are bothered by the noise can keep it switched on for a while then use the fans to circulate the cool air. However, I cannot just keep wheeling it in and out depending on whether a guest wants to pay for it or not as its exhaust pipe does not fit too snugly in the hole and it took me some time to make sure all the hot air was being blown outside. I see that it uses about 1.2 kW when the compressor is working which translates to about 20 cents an hour or Euro 2.40 a day if it is kept on for 12 hours. However in my country utility costs are not linear. Once you consume more than a certain amount of water or electricity the rates rise dramatically. Since I get a utility bill every 2 months I will see how it goes for two months and I am not going to charge the guests anything extra for now.

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    Zoinks

    Mccusker Mike1969  Thanks for the feedback. Portable ACs have a normal plug which you plug into any socket. Do you mean building a lockable box around the plug and socket? Sounds like a good idea but not sure how to go about doing it. Actually, I like all your ideas (Except the split type ACs - I have to disagree - they are much more ugly) With a normal AC you can have the indoor unit and the outside unit far away from each other. For example, I can put the outdoor units on the roof - efficiency decreases slightly but as long as the distance is not more than let's say 5 metres and the tubes carrying the coolant are well-insulated losses are small. 

    As regards monitoring guests I can see overall (not for each guest, but I have a trick I can use :-P)  real time electricity consumption on my smart meter but more importantly I can hear the units working and I can check for open windows by looking at the house from the outside. 

    But I will get temperature sensors as you suggested. These will also help me keep a record of the room temperature in case of spurious complaints like when in March one guest said that the room was too hot and it was just under 20 C degrees inside the room.   

    Edit: I think we mean the same thing by split type ACs - at first I thought that you were talking about the one where the two halves are connected to each other with just a window separating the two parts. I don't know what those are called. 

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    MikeM

    Great, happy to help.   I just mean you need to restrict access to the plug / power.  simply make a wood frame and small lockable door - over the power outlet.  - or buy a lockable electrical box.  ( Google: electrical box, lockable )  - or you could simply lock the 'plug' in a box. - they need the combination to open the box - to free the plug to plug it in the wall.     - Yes, we mean the same thing about Split Type AC's.

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    MikeM

    Something like this... ( floor or wall. )

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    Zoinks

    Thanks, Mike. And to think that the only solutions I was offered locally involved buying cards (I said coins before, it was a mistake) plus a card reader and service charges. Your solution is so simple! But as I said I'm going to try it out for 'free' (nobody likes paying for extras) and I think people would rather see a price of Euro 110 all-inclusive than seeing a price of Euro 100 plus an extra charge of Euro 10 for ac. I will report back when I have enough feedback.

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    fluff

    Orrrrrrrrr, what about the interrupters as used in hotels? You can get very cheap mains driven ones that accept a credit card style "key" but smaller so guests can't cheat it. Have the AC connected to one of these and charge for the key card.

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    Zoinks

    Fluff - thanks for the feedback but I must admit that in a hotel I used just a piece of cardboard to keep the electricity in the room on as I had a laptop charging. And if I used such a system it would need rewiring etc. I am going to use the portable ACs and report back. 

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    Rita

    In stead of installing an AC you could install a big ceiling fan. We rent out in the tropics and our experience is that guests prefer the fan over the AC. In our information memorandum we emphasize that if you use the AC you need to close all doors and windows and when you are not there the AC should be out. If they do not do so, they may run up an additional charge for electricity. So far we have never had an issue.

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    fluff

    @Joey

    Those are the old style units, operated by a simple micro-switch in the slot that the card operates. The new ones can detect an "RF" card and some use a chip system. I assume the chip type would require a programme to set them up. The normal RF ones simply sense the presence of the coil inside the card.

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    Zoinks

    OK portable ACs installed and tested for almost a month. I was including them in the price - so charging nothing extra.Fans are also present. I've found that SOME guests do not even switch the AC on while most leave it on all the time they are in the room even when there is a cool breeze blowing outside and they could just open a window. In all cases I found that guests were setting the AC on 16 degrees - the lowest temperature so that the compressor keeps working non stop. I am now going to test a system where I ask the guests what I think is the minimum I can charge - Euro 5 per night for using the AC. I have also found and fitted the mechanism which allows me to power on or off AC units. I am using plugs with RF (radio frequency) remote controllers. They are cheap to buy and with one remote control I can control 4 units. At the same time I am lowering the price of the rooms by 5 Euros as suddenly there is a lot of competition and where you appear in the listings is influenced by many factors including price.

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